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	<title>Comments on: EEVblog #55 &#8211; RCA Airnergy WiFi Hotspot Energy Harvesting Marketing BS</title>
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		<title>By: SomeMoreVideos2468</title>
		<link>http://theseminarz.com/eevblog-55-rca-airnergy-wifi-hotspot-energy-harvesting-marketing-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeMoreVideos2468</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the 15 minute charger was for NiMH which can be charged that fast but it&#039;s a totally different chemistry. Li-ions would just explode if that much current was forced through them. Most Li-ion batteries have a maximum charge rate of C/3 but smaller ones like those used in mobiles can sometimes be charged at up to 1C. ATM there&#039;s just no Li-ion batteries in production which could support such a high charge rate but even if there was - why not just use a charger for them??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the 15 minute charger was for NiMH which can be charged that fast but it&#8217;s a totally different chemistry. Li-ions would just explode if that much current was forced through them. Most Li-ion batteries have a maximum charge rate of C/3 but smaller ones like those used in mobiles can sometimes be charged at up to 1C. ATM there&#8217;s just no Li-ion batteries in production which could support such a high charge rate but even if there was &#8211; why not just use a charger for them??</p>
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		<title>By: SomeMoreVideos2468</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeMoreVideos2468</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one more thing - I don&#039;t have a slow charger - a C/3 charge rate for Li-ion batteries is a rapid charge. My point is that there really isn&#039;t any point in charging something from a microwave as it would be expensive, inefficient and would probably just damage your microwave oven because of arcing since very little of the ~1kw of microwave energy would be picked up by the antenna. Supercaps are emerging which can be charged in a matter of seconds but my point still applies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one more thing &#8211; I don&#8217;t have a slow charger &#8211; a C/3 charge rate for Li-ion batteries is a rapid charge. My point is that there really isn&#8217;t any point in charging something from a microwave as it would be expensive, inefficient and would probably just damage your microwave oven because of arcing since very little of the ~1kw of microwave energy would be picked up by the antenna. Supercaps are emerging which can be charged in a matter of seconds but my point still applies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SomeMoreVideos2468</title>
		<link>http://theseminarz.com/eevblog-55-rca-airnergy-wifi-hotspot-energy-harvesting-marketing-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeMoreVideos2468</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah and what confuses me about this is why would they tune it to 2.4GHz - why not just pick up all RF? I mean it still wouldn&#039;t be enough to do much but it would be better than form just 1 frequency. You&#039;d get more energy by sticking a solar panel to the back of it!
I wouldn&#039;t like to have enough RF around to power a phone or something - your body is very effective at picking it up too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah and what confuses me about this is why would they tune it to 2.4GHz &#8211; why not just pick up all RF? I mean it still wouldn&#8217;t be enough to do much but it would be better than form just 1 frequency. You&#8217;d get more energy by sticking a solar panel to the back of it!<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t like to have enough RF around to power a phone or something &#8211; your body is very effective at picking it up too!</p>
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		<title>By: Vlakpage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlakpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SomeMoreVideos2468 For example take a look at Toshiba&#039;s SCiB. They claim 90% charge after 5 minutes at rate 12C or 90% after 10 mins at 5C. It should be available next year. Not targetted at mobile handheld devices though.

Li-Poly for RC models can be charged in about 1 hour and stays cool (I have one)

I don&#039;t say it&#039;d good to charge your phone in microwave oven, just that these fast charging batteries exist and there will be more in future. Li-based chemistry is still in heavy development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SomeMoreVideos2468 For example take a look at Toshiba&#8217;s SCiB. They claim 90% charge after 5 minutes at rate 12C or 90% after 10 mins at 5C. It should be available next year. Not targetted at mobile handheld devices though.</p>
<p>Li-Poly for RC models can be charged in about 1 hour and stays cool (I have one)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t say it&#8217;d good to charge your phone in microwave oven, just that these fast charging batteries exist and there will be more in future. Li-based chemistry is still in heavy development.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeMoreVideos2468</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeMoreVideos2468</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, for sure - my main point was I couldn&#039;t see a microwave charger being useful. I was referring to currently available batteries when I was talking about charge rates. And as I said supercaps can be charged in a matter of seconds but aren&#039;t mainstream yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, for sure &#8211; my main point was I couldn&#8217;t see a microwave charger being useful. I was referring to currently available batteries when I was talking about charge rates. And as I said supercaps can be charged in a matter of seconds but aren&#8217;t mainstream yet.</p>
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		<title>By: pikuorguk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pikuorguk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the fillings in my teeth collect more energy from cosmic rays. I&#039;m off to patent the idea so that in the future, when we work this out properly I can make loads of money ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fillings in my teeth collect more energy from cosmic rays. I&#8217;m off to patent the idea so that in the future, when we work this out properly I can make loads of money <img src='http://theseminarz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yoyomin</title>
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		<dc:creator>yoyomin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that was MY idea :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that was MY idea :p</p>
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		<title>By: Flapjackbatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flapjackbatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a quick websearch , and from comments on forums around the net you can see ppl bying into this bullshit.
Only about one or two in ca 10 comments are sceptical.
We`re surrounded by idiots !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a quick websearch , and from comments on forums around the net you can see ppl bying into this bullshit.<br />
Only about one or two in ca 10 comments are sceptical.<br />
We`re surrounded by idiots !</p>
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		<title>By: supercannon2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RCA is nothing but a label. Thomson Consumer Electronics is the corporation that own,s rca name and many other&#039;s. I&#039;ve had my run in&#039;s with this outfit with their prduct&#039;s before. Enjoy you&#039;r informative vid&#039;s Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RCA is nothing but a label. Thomson Consumer Electronics is the corporation that own,s rca name and many other&#8217;s. I&#8217;ve had my run in&#8217;s with this outfit with their prduct&#8217;s before. Enjoy you&#8217;r informative vid&#8217;s Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: vaneenbergen</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaneenbergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use the unit together with your lunch in a microwave-oven :)  Indeed complete BS. Dave great blog always waiting on the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use the unit together with your lunch in a microwave-oven <img src='http://theseminarz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Indeed complete BS. Dave great blog always waiting on the next one.</p>
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